From Episode 2290 Scott Adams: CWSA 11/12/23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-FMREn_XY0
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https://youtu.be/A-FMREn_XY0?t=2797
I think the Saudi Prince wants to be
seen as the you know a senior Peacemaker which would be a real good look um and
wants to be friends with everybody in the region as well as America and he's
going to have to do it himself right it looks like it's a job for one person
basically if he could pull it off now here's the interesting part the Crown
Prince is friends with Jared Kushner and if he's watched Jared work at all he's
learned some of his persuasion my guess it's just a guess is that the Crown
Prince has more game than you could possibly imagine and I think he came by
honestly I think he got it through watching the Trump team work that's what I
think I think he learned by watching the Trump team work.
now if you haven't heard His Latest
incredibly awesome idea and I mean that seriously that's not sarcasm one of his
ideas is to reinterpret the Quran so that instead of saying You must convert
everybody you know even by violence into Islam he wants to reinterpret that as
you must inform everybody about Islam so it would be more of a conversational
informational Victory as long as everybody knew it then it's up to God which I
love, right.
As long as everybody's been informed
then it's up to God. Let God decide if he wants to turn their souls. I like that.
Now what are the odds you can push that and get away with it? If he controls the
schools it's 100%. Could MBS, you know the Crown Prince, push something that is
such a completely radical reinterpretation at least to some parts of Islam it
would be radical as long as he controlled the schools.
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um I would like to turn on my sarcasm filter what I read next is what I just
posted this morning but I'll tell you in advance it's sarcasm so that you can enjoy it all the way through it goes like this do you remember the time you saw the list of totally reasonable demands that the Palestinians have made of Israel do you remember seeing that list you know the list the list of the total reasonable demands you've all seen the list right uh you know it was a list that didn't rely on some sort of historical narrative you know it wasn't that list it was the one that didn't didn't seem to try to fix the past but just sort of focused on what's real and in the present you remember that list yeah it was very constructive starting point for conversation and I thought hey that's a good step toward a permanent solution that list of totally reasonable demands and I'm talking I'm not talking about the terrorists I'm talking about the reasonable Palestinian people with reasonable demands so you've all seen the list right um and uh you know what's important about that is that it's the most important uh document in the world if you think if you think that the Middle East might spark a you know larger World War I mean it's it's the most important document so we should probably you know all refer to it you know go Google it and take a look at it and um once we have that uh that would be a good step forward because you you want to not deal with the the terrorists of course everybody agrees with that but the reasonable demands of the Palestinian people you know the part where they need I don't know water electricity um some security you know things like that the reasonable stuff maybe travel more less travel restrictions sort of stuff have you what well you're acting like that list of doesn't exist how could that list not exist it's the entire news the entire new cycle assumes that exists how could it not exist well when I printed my sarcasm published it somebody immediately went in and said no Scott there is there is in fact a very specific list of the reasonable Palestinian objections number number one on the list is that the uh Israeli uh leaders who were part of war crimes against the Palestinians be punished so when I said that list that does not include historical narratives I was given a list that has number one on it an historical narrative your side is bad and you got to do something about the Badness first before we're talking about you know food and water and education and stuff but you got to you got to address your past Badness for first it's like they're not they're not even trying who exactly is trying literally nobody do you know why nobody's trying because on average they they both prefer the fight to the peace let me say it directly Israel is getting bigger Israel just gains land every time they get attacked their their narrative and their reason for existing and you know their justification for a big defense budget everything it it's all supported by the fact they're under continuous threat the worst thing that could happen to Israel is complete peace do you know why because they would lose their reasons for not having a bigger um Islamic presence within Israel itself it's like we're all at peace why why can't we buy property here we're all at peace do you think Israel wants to live in peace and lose their let's say primarily Jewish characters like it's maybe 20% 20% uh Muslim what what is the percentage in Israel right now it's a sub substantial peace right 20% or is that too much why don't we know that isn't that like another like important thing to know if if you're if you're trying to understand the area and you don't know the percentage of Muslims living you know happily in Israel somebody saying 25 2025 okay so there are a number of people who generally had the right idea in their head that's good like I say you're the most most informed um consumers of news literally I think you are all right so would you agree with my statement that if Israel were in a permanent peace situation it would be impossible possible not to lose their Jewish majority in time because there's such a difference in procreation levels would you agree with that I just don't think it's in Israel's best interest to have a permanent peace it it just doesn't work to bolster the strength of the the Jewish State and I don't say that as a judgment right that's not a judgment it's just sort of a obvious fact right so how about the Palestinians do you think the Palestinians want peace more than they want war there's no indication of that all indications are that they they want to die in a war and they don't mind if their children die not much I mean it I mean I'm exaggerating right obviously everybody cares if their children die but they're they're creating a culture that seems to prefer permanent war and so they're getting what they want so I think that when we look at it from the side and we say why can't they make peace it feels like you know there's not enough work toward peace maybe nobody wants it well that's an exaggeration too obviously plenty of people want it but the people in charge do they want it you think the people in charge really want a permanent peace I don't think so and then I don't think it makes sense and the reason they wouldn't want it is not because they're bad people at least in the case of Israel it would be just sort of common sense you know they get more under these conditions than the other conditions in the long run it's expensive in terms of lives Scott is admitting to be a supremacist what what are you drinking this morning somebody's drinking their breakfast anyway so um this mirrors another situation do you remember when BLM first started and I with great futility I kept saying BLM if you could say specifically what you're asking for then we could all have this big negotiation and conversation and about we could solve a few you know and I use as my example more body cams on police probably that's something that BLM wanted more Bobby cams and probably Republicans would be persuaded to say yes cuz it it feels like a win-win so I thought to myself well why don't we make this list of totally reasonable demands maybe you can't do everyone but you know let's take a bite out of it and I very quickly found out that BLM had no no incentive to solve anything because they were getting paid the leaders were being paid to be leaders and they couldn't lead to a solution because they stopped getting paid so it was the you know the conflict that was the pay off off so never never try to make peace with somebody who gets more benefit from the conflict than the peace it's a waste of time um here's an interesting angle on this Middle East stuff so the Saudi Crown Prince uh Ben Suman he held a groundbreaking high level meeting with the president of Iran now I didn't know quite the history of their situation I knew they were obious viously uh enemies in the region but apparently it's been a very long time over 11 years since the Saudis and the Iranians met at a high level now I'm loving Saudis uh Crown Prince's political posturing I don't love his you know bone saw murdering stuff but I also don't think it's my business you know it it's a tough area over there and there's a little bit of murdering that goes on and unfortunately if you didn't deal with people who sometimes did things you really really don't like you wouldn't be able to do anything so you know I'm not going to I'm not going to ignore the fact that he presumably ordered a bone saw murder of a of a Critic can't ignore that but he does seem to be doing productive things in terms of the future of Israel and the region and I think there might be something really important that could develop if Israel I'm sorry if Saudi Arabia and Iran could make some kind of accommodation that made them both happy I don't know if it's possible but the fact that there's any attempt at it at all is kind of impressive because it's sort of the root if you could take Iran out of the fight by simply saying look the fight's not helping anybody why don't we Islamic people at least get along with each other have some kind of a combination and we could be a dominant world power you know collectively you know why why don't we make our region at least a powerful region then when we deal with the rest of the world we're all dealing together and it could be like one big happy situation so you don't have to go Sunni or Shia you you can stay separate but at least when you're dealing with the rest of the world deal with with deal with it as a you know coherent entity and leave Israel alone because it's just trouble you know it's trouble for everybody so if that's what the Saudi Prince is going for and I suspect he is because I think the Saudi Prince wants to be seen as the you know a senior Peacemaker which would be a real good look um and wants to be friends with everybody in the region as well as America and he's going to have to do it himself right it looks like it's a job for one person basically if he could pull it off now here's the interesting part the Crown Prince is friends with Jared Kushner and if he's watched Jared work at all he's learned some of his persuasion my guess it's just a guess is that the Crown Prince has more game than you could possibly imagine and I think he came by honestly I think he got it through watching the Trump team work that's what I think I think he learned by watching the Trump team workor now if you haven't heard His Latest incredibly awesome idea and I mean that seriously that's not sarcasm one of his ideas is to reinterpret the Quran so that instead of saying You must convert everybody you know even by violence into Islam he wants to reinter interet that as you must inform everybody about Islam so it would be more of a conversational informational Victory as long as everybody knew it then it's up to God which I love right as long as everybody's been informed then it's up to God let let God decide if he wants to turn their souls I like that now what are the odds you can push that and get away with it if he controls the schools it's 100% you got that could could MBS you know the Crown Prince push something that is such a completely radical reinterpretation at least to some some parts of Islam it would be radical as long as he controlled the schools absolutely do you think Gaza will ever have schools that are um controlled by Hamas in the future no no there isn't the slightest chance Israel would be dumb enough to recreate that mistake right they're going to control the schools either directly or through proxies they're going to control the schools they don't have a choice Israel cannot exist in the long run if they don't get the children trained to not want to kill them all the time that that's that's a got to do but um so this this is a positive thing and apparently there was a meeting of uh uh the Muslim countries over there there's an Arab actually an Arab Summit and uh there were bunch of groups about a dozen groups or so and the ones that want to be friendly with Israel you know the the uh Abraham Accords plus Saudis sort of didn't want to go around go with the majority that wanted to be you know sort of an anti-israel approach so already we're seeing that Saudi is being productive in a way that kind of makes sense to everybody like it it does look like you know he's he's uh friendlier to Israel than we've seen before but I think he's got solutions that would work for everybody in the region if they pay attention to him so that's positive all right um I would like to offer the Scott Adams solution for Israel now when you hear this you're going to say that is the dumbest freaking thing I've ever heard in my life that is so impractical Scott you don't understand the region you don't know how they think you're missing it entirely well I give it to you anyway and then I'll sell it it goes like this so the people were chanting they want Islam to own from The River To The Sea which of course would make Israel go away in that version of History um how can you how can you give them what they want which is that Islam owns from the river to the sea but also at the same time Israel exists because those are opposites right well really have you heard of Taiwan do you know what our policy of Taiwan is officially there's one China but then we just act like there's two does that make sense no it's a diplomatic solution which is absurd but absurd diplomatic Solutions are actually routine aren't they when the the Brits um had a 99e lease on Tokyo on not Tokyo on Hong Kong that was sort of absurd wasn't it we're going to rent your country for 100 years but basically it was just a a cleaner way to make sure that it went to where it was going to go anyway but with some orderly long-term process so it's not unusual to do totally absurd things in the in the Diplomatic realm it's just common all right so here's my absurd solution for how Israel can exist exactly as it is and yet their critics can own everything from the river to the SE and it's not moving the river and it's not renaming the river that's stupid is it's uh declaring all of the land is owned by Islam this is is Israel doing this and then leasing it back for a dollar a year for a thousand years now you say to yourself Scott who who are they even going to be talking to like what Islamic people even could make that deal well you could find somebody yeah I I believe there's some Islamic you know umbrella organizations that sometimes you will try to speak for the region so you just find whatever is the most credible one you say here's the deal we would like to officially and tell the world that this is Islamic land forever but Israel will be leasing it back for one checkel per year for a thousand years why a thousand well because a thousand years everything's off the table right that like who knows if Nations even exist in a thousand years and if in the Thousand Years Israel is a you know vibrant nation that definitely doesn't want to give us land back to the Muslims it just doesn't have to you can just violate the agreement in a thousand years right they just say well things have changed it's been a thousand years so you know maybe we don't need this weird diplomatic thing anymore so that's my that's my thing now if you say to yourself but Scott Israel's never going to agree to that well what's their alternative what is their alternative they have only bad choices so do you know about um I don't know my history well enough so you'll have to help me on this is that the Temple Mount within Israel that is considered Muslim real estate but yet you know the security of the entire region is still Israel so they they have some kind of control but on paper on paper it belongs to uh Islam right is that is that true or no do I have do I have my facts right give me give me a confirmation or a fact check on that I'm seeing some nose but is it close am I just getting some fact wrong is it is it roughly the roughly what's going on some people are say yes some people say no all right so here's the point the point is you can do any crazy thing when it comes to diplomacy and if you have a crazy situation a crazy solution is actually maybe where you would go to first like looking for normal solutions to Crazy situations isn't always going to be your go-to sometimes you got to get as crazy as a situation now would that idea ever be uh accepted no there there's no chance that's ever going to happen but uh I I put it Forward um only as an example of how radical you could get in your thinking because the normal thinking doesn't seem to be working for anybody so you might as well could go to abnormal thinking all right you want another one all right I can sweeten it you take a bunch of top soil from Israel literally dirt just take a just a ton of it because there's plenty of dirt and then you build a Palestinian Homeland that's in you know let's say Jordan or Egypt or I don't know somewhere but uh somewhere that Israel doesn't have to worry about the security of it and you literally you know spread the Israel dirt where the other dirt is and you say God says this is good enough you know you basically you got your Homeland cuz what is it that what is it that determines a Homeland all right here's something from my book God's debris some of you have heard it if if I said what makes uh Israel valuable to both sides you'd say well location it's the location like that's a holy location and then I say to you what is a location then you say well okay I I get what you're saying Everything's Relative so the location is uh something that's located relative to other things which are also located so you can only describe a location in terms of describing other things and their location would you agree there there's no other way to describe a location except in the context of the other things that are also in a place but here's the problem all of the other things are moving all the time you're on a planet that's moving through space um 99.99999% of all the things which determine a location just moved oh they just moved again and they just moved again every moment your location changes not a little bit but galactically like the entire galaxy is moving within the universe the planets are moving within the Galaxy there isn't almost anything that's staying where it is like even the atmosphere in the region the atmosphere the air you breathe it's going from country to country is moving the only thing that's kind of staying in one place is some of the dirt relative to some of the other dirt it's literally about the location of some dirt on Earth to some other dirt on Earth it's not about location cuz remember God does not look at real estate as being this block or the ZIP code if you're God you understand that location doesn't even exist there's no such thing as location to a God view of the universe because everything's moving what what would that even mean there could only be a location at a moment and even time doesn't exist if you're God SpaceTime exists so there's only SpaceTime there's not even time so from a God's perspective our little ideas of what real estate are are nonsense so the reframe that you want is to take people from real estate agent frame hey the thing on the other side of the fence belongs to a guy and it's always been here that's the real estate agent frame take it up to the god frame location goes away but if you want to make people happy we'll give you all the dirt you want from the Holy Land we got lots of dirt just take it with you put a put a little jar of it on your shelf you can pray to it if you want to you can say the you know your holy people walked under dir it like this so it means something to you yeah but if you want to take it up to the god level location disappears and then you can have a conversation so why is it that people are trying to satisfy God by talking about real estate like a real estate broker maybe if you're trying to satisfy God you should talk like God would look at it and in which case there's no location as long as everybody has access to visit the holy sites should be enough but the I don't expect that to solve anything all right um saw some expert uh I guess it was a publisher of the New York Sun wrote a big piece about the situation in Gaza but here's the thing that the closing sentence here it's time for the International Community to recognize uh what many Israelis and some gazin have already learned for the foreseeable future Israeli control of Gaza will bring the best possible outcome for basically everybody but he says before that after a generation of indoctrination it will take decades to reverse the culture of hate the Hamas and the Palestinians Authority have meticulously cultivated so remember my prediction it would be ridiculously stupid for Israel to attack Gaza meet some objectives in terms of destroying Hamas and then turn it back over to the Palestinians to run it that would be the dumbest thing they could do and is Israel a really really dumb country do they do they do a bunch of dumb things when it comes to their security not really not really no so so they're never going to be dumb enough to give it back and the as soon as you realize that the sooner the shock will start wearing off there is no Gaza anymore it it's not I mean whatever it will be you know and by the way Israel said that directly before they went to Gaza they said we're going to change the reality of Gaza for 50 years I think one of the generals said that directly we will change the reality for Gaza for 50 years in other words it's not going to be run by Muslims for 50 years uh at least I don't see how they could possibly do that um there's a story that uh the Israeli president held up a copy of mine comp Hitler's book there uh he said it was found in a gaza's children's room used by humas uh I'm sorry I think it was a hospital room or something I don't know but the idea is that the people in are reading Hitler's book mine comp does that sound a little too on the nose little too on the nose do you know Scott Ritter Scott Ritter um I think he he's always dealing with the Russians he takes the Russian side on the Ukraine Russia war and I think he takes Russia's side on everything but uh even Scott Ritter says he goes the Israelis are not good at this you know meaning that it's such obvious propaganda that they're not good at it do you know what my take was if you're talking about it they're good at it Scott Ritter you don't understand propaganda I'm talking about it that's all anybody's going to remember they're going to remember that somebody said Hamas is reading m c that's all they'll remember they're not going to remember that Scott Ritter said it might not be true now is it true I don't know does it matter well it matters in the propaganda war and I would say whether it's true or not it worked it totally worked because once you get that like Connection in your head it's just sticky so it actually doesn't matter if if uh six months from now the news runs a story of Correction it turns out that book was you know planted there by an Israeli soldier to be found later would anybody care no you would never reverse the initial impression that mine comp is something they're reading the Hamas people so no that was totally successful um Elon Musk was talking about the situation he said uh you know of course he's pro peace and wants to have a negotiated settlement and he says if you kill somebody child in Gaza you've made at least a few Hamas members and then he went on to explain that if the idea is to reduce the number of Hamas you have to be very careful if killing people gets you fewer Hamas then maybe that's a strategy but if killing people gets you more Hamas that's not a good strategy do you AG do you agree with Elon Musk that the killing probably produces more Hamas and therefore it's counterproductive how many would agree with that statement no yes come on weigh in yes no yeah you're not you're not too sure about this one are you I gu some NOS some yeses some NOS yeah you're all over the board stop it being correct yes but yes but is the correct answer um but here's what I would add to that there are exactly three situations that guarantee you have more Hamas right so these are the three things you want to avoid and see if you agree with the three that all of them will add will increase the number of hos number one is if Israel did nothing would that increase or decrease the amount of Hamas I would say increase because that would show that Hamas was succeeding and winning and probably they could do a lot of recruiting on that so that would increase it suppose Israel instead of doing nothing they do a little bit they do a little now a little would be somewhat similar to the way they've been operating before so a little would be you do some hard hits you know you do some bombing you know you haven't really touch the tunnels you know you haven't degraded the much but you're you're playing tough right you're showing that if you hit we hit you back that's a little would that make more Hamas or less Hamas more guaranteed because now they've got the you know the the bombing in their territory it's like hey they're bombing us join Hamas we'll fight them so so you can't do nothing that'll create more Hamas and you can't do a little that will get you more homas but what if he did a lot and that's that's sort of what they're doing now they're doing a lot does that get you more Hamas no that probably gets you more Hamas right because they'll be all worked up they have better recruiting Because You're killing so many you're you're killing Innocents babies their families become homas right so you've got three situations you can't do nothing you can't do a little and you can't do a lot so what do you do what what is the rational thing to do if you can't do a little you can't do nothing and you can't do a lot and you and guaranteed those things won't work what's left well one possibility is do everything I said do a lot but that's not everything right what they're doing now is a lot but is it everything let me tell you what everything would be everything would be keeping the displaced Hamas and Palestinians in some place where they control the school system they build them some good schools they build them some good uh medical facilities maybe paid for by you know the region not Israel and they just run it for two generations to make sure they've deprogrammed the children for two generations and then you see what you have just see what you have when you're done do you think they will go that far to AB absolutely just turn it into a you know a separate place maybe even leave Gaza un unoccupied have complete control over the population and just essentially write them off for two generations while you're training the children to to not hate people I don't think they could do that I don't think they'd be able to do it uh it's like too big a job but what else would work and and if they did that that it would turn into a weaker situation right it would look like a prison camp and so that probably wouldn't work either so even doing everything probably wouldn't work so what do you do what's the most rational thing to do when nothing's going to work I'll tell you what I think unfortunately the most rational thing to do for Israel is to do whatever makes them mentally whole again in other words they're not fighting an enemy it's a mental health experiment now it's also you know reducing their immediate risk but it's primarily for mental health I think that you could not live in Israel unless you knew your army had just freaking wiped out whoever did the October 7 thing I I think for the mental health of Israel the military has go hard and that nothing else would work and that does Israel have let's say the moral an ethical right to cure their mental health by killing you know boatloads of people I say yes because the situation wasn't created by them it was created by the population that would lose boatloads of people uh I think the argument Hamas has already killed their kids you know if you turn your kid into a future terrorist it's just a matter of time I mean they life isn't going to be that good so um you know it seems like Israel is more of a mop up operation for people are are effectively already dead if you're talking about the weaponized children now that's an exaggeration of course but yes from a you know everything's messy there's no clean ethical anything but if you create a situ situation in which your enemy you've attacked their best smartest medically medically acceptable thing to do is to destroy your population it's probably going to happen now um as much as I think Elon Musk you doesn't really have a workable preference I'm okay with that because I think he knows it you know on some level I think he knows it but if you're a leader at that level and and musk is you know unelected leader but he's a leader just the same you should always be in favor of peace and that should be the first thing you say all the time that's good form so I'm very much in favor of musk playing both sides of this and just saying hey you know both of you all the time try to make peace no matter how hard it is and people like me who are you know less less of a leader I I can tell you a more realistic thing which is I don't think there's a way to win it looks like a permanent situation to me because both sides want it well let's see what else has happening Bill Amman uh went after Biden hard saying what a lot of people are saying that he should just retire Bill Amman you know a very notable Democrat supporter rich rich guy so it matters that he says it so every time you see a new person saying directly you know you you feel the initiative is building and building it'll be easier for anybody else to say it after that point
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